FORCED DEPOPULATION ISSUES, EVIDENCE

Given that the thread was pulled on FR, here’s a portion of it to allow the discussion to continue:

BTW, I DO NOT THINK IT MATTERS that the original post may have been or was a hoax, or not.

THERE ARE VERY HIGH RANKING LEADERS AROUND THE WORLD WHO FEEL, BELIEVE AND ACT EXACTLY AS THE OP ASSERTED.

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To: Nachum

Can we say death panels .
These are the people they are going to appoint to them.

“Oh you need a heart by pass “

“Yes”

“Wait let me see how you voted in the last election”
“Sorry you are going to have to take the blue pill”

81posted on Sunday, May 22, 2011 10:14:21 PMby Lera

To: Interesting Times

One man’s logic is another man’s craziness.

I gather you haven’t studied the topic involved for 45 years.

Here’s some quotes to give you an introduction:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2475963/posts?page=60#60
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colorful NWO QUIXICATION of quotes:
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2624713/posts?page=153#153

82posted on Sunday, May 22, 2011 10:27:43 PM

To: Lera

USELESS EATERS

are bad for the environment.

THE MSM will be increasingly declaring this truth.

/sarc partially

83posted on Sunday, May 22, 2011 10:29:04 PMby Quix

To: bitt

Perhaps Ms Tomason should exercise her convictions and show the world how serious she really is and volunteer to grasp a sharp razor and cut her own throat. She would help convince us that the need to diminish the earth’s population is indeed sound advice.

84posted on Sunday, May 22, 2011 10:51:49 PMby Marine_Uncle(Honor must be earned….Duncan Hunter Sr. for POTUS.)

To: kittymyrib

“There are several million guns in Texas and men and women willing to use them to defend their freedom.
Come and take ‘em, Miz Thomason.”

Ditto for GA.

85posted on Sunday, May 22, 2011 11:19:51 PMby Georgia Girl 2(The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)

To: bitt

Thanks for the ping!

86posted on Sunday, May 22, 2011 11:31:57 PMby Alamo-Girl

To: Quix

Jeepers.

87posted on Sunday, May 22, 2011 11:33:17 PMby Alamo-Girl

To: Alamo-Girl; betty boop; Dr. Brian Kopp; 1000 silverlings; Chode; onyx; JustAmy

JEEPERS INDEED!

The relevant ‘commandment’ of the globalists was put this way on the GEORGIA GUIDESTONES–’Commandment’ #1 & #10:

http://www.radioliberty.com/stones.htm

Back when their goal was to force the population down to 500 million. Many sources now say it’s been adjusted down to only 200 million.

THE MESSAGE OF THE GEORGIA GUIDESTONES

1. Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.
2. Guide reproduction wisely – improving fitness and diversity.
3. Unite humanity with a living new language.
4. Rule passion – faith – tradition – and all things with tempered reason.
5. Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts.
6. Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court.
7. Avoid petty laws and useless officials.
8. Balance personal rights with social duties.
9. Prize truth – beauty – love – seeking harmony with the infinite.
10.Be not a cancer on the earth – Leave room for nature – Leave room for nature.

SOCIALISTS/MARXISTS/GLOBALISTS/

Have been saying and writing such things for many decades.

Do you have any explanation Dear Sister In Christ

for why CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIANS

refuse to believe these extremely powerful and super well funded global leaders

WHEN the leaders talk about such plans . . . implement the first stages of such plans . . . continue to implement succeeding stages of such plans

and increasingly brazenly talk about such plans as well as more and more overtly carry out such steps?

Where does that mental disconnect originate?

It seems to me, it’s akin to many CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIANS refusing to take The Bible literally about Israel and other END TIMES prophecies being fulfilled increasingly in broad daylight and even on the MSM news.

“To achieve world government, it is necessary to remove from the minds of men their individualism, loyalty to family traditions, national patriotism, and religious dogmas.” – Brock Adams, Director UN Health Organization

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“We are grateful to The Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years. But, the work is now much more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries.”

David Rockefeller, founder of the Trilateral Commission, in an address to a meeting of The Trilateral Commission, in June, 1991.

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“The idea was that those who direct the overall conspiracy could use the differences in those two so-called ideologies [marxism/fascism/socialism v. democracy/capitalism] to enable them [the Illuminati] to divide larger and larger portions of the human race into opposing camps so that they could be armed and then brainwashed into fighting and destroying each other.”

Myron Fagan

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“No one will enter the New World Order unless he or she will make a pledge to worship Lucifer. No one will enter the New Age unless he will take a Luciferian Initiation.”

David Spangler, Director of Planetary Initiative, United Nations

These are the sorts of blokes behind such ‘ideals’ from hell:

“The world can therefore seize the opportunity [Persian Gulf crisis] to fulfill the long-held promise of a New World Order where diverse nations are drawn together in common cause to achieve the universal aspirations of mankind.”

George Herbert Walker Bush

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“In the next century, nations as we know it will be obsolete; all states will recognize a single, global authority. National sovereignty wasn’t such a great idea after all.”

Strobe Talbot, President Clinton’s Deputy Secretary of State, as quoted in Time, July 20th, l992.

from

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2624713/posts?page=153#153

To: Nachum; MestaMachine

Well, I may be barking up the wrong tree. But I don’t think so. Arab blood.

http://www.usidentify.com/audrey-tomason

http://www.usidentify.com/radi-tom/r/audrey-tomason

posted on Monday, May 23, 2011 4:57:39 AMby Hardraade(I want gigaton warheads now!!)

To: paulycy

1973.

91posted on Monday, May 23, 2011 6:19:02 AMby Pan_Yan

To: Nachum

Here’s a link to the evil New Age “population selection” proposal.

http://www.mgr.org/NewAgeSect6.html

Tomason’s thesis is NOT original—she’s a hack like most Kennedy School of Serbophobia graduates and faculty. And she’s evil!!!!

posted on Monday, May 23, 2011 7:13:14 AMby Honorary Serb(Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)

To: Pan_Yan; STARWISE; maggief; bitt; SE Mom; onyx; hoosiermama; All

Ping to Pan_Yan’s post.

Hmmmmmm……looks like a hoax. It would not surprise me however if the woman holds some of these beliefs. That’s what makes it a success as an internet hoax. Mix a little truth in with some wild fiction. This is tied to the ‘Peak Oil’ stuff floating around since the early 90’s.

Bottom line….leftists are nuts and we would be wise to keep an eye on them….lol.

The original source for ‘The Apocalypse Equation’ here:

http://www.uspacifistparty.org/equation.html

posted on Monday, May 23, 2011 7:42:13 AMby penelopesire(Let The Congressional Hearings Begin!)

To: Quix

One man’s logic is another man’s craziness.

Not at all. Logic is a formal discipline with well-defined rules and assumptions. You might as well say “One man’s algebra is another man’s craziness.”

Such relativism has the unfortunate effect of devaluing, within in your own mind, the very considerable difference between those arguments and claims that make sense and those that do not.

The end result is that you wind up embracing every new apocalyptic hoax that comes down the pike. Only with great reluctance can you disavow even obvious scams such as this one, and many you never see through at all.

There is a great deal of chaff out there, and relatively little wheat. To distinguish between the two, it is useful to care whether the things you believe are actually true.

posted on Monday, May 23, 2011 10:12:36 AMby Interesting Times(WinterSoldier.com. SwiftVets.com. ToSetTheRecordStraight.com.)

To: Interesting Times

OF COURSE those points are reasonable points.

HOWEVER,

what one person considers reasonable evidence

and how rigorous logic is processed

. . . how much of a bias there is toward

A TYPE I ERROR VS A TYPE II ERROR

etc. etc. etc.

results in one man’s application of logic being much more flawed resulting in much worse and more unreliable results

though both—at least somewhat—followed the rules of logic.

I rarely meet folks who have analyzed even as much as 10% of the mass of data I’ve analyzed to come to my conclusions.

WHEN I do, I very rarely meet such a person who has reached dramatically different conclusions. Actually, I can’t think of a single case.

posted on Monday, May 23, 2011 10:17:42 AMby Quix(Times are a changin’ INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)

To: lara; Marine_Uncle; Georgia Girl 2; Alamo-Girl; Hardraade; paulycy; Honorary Serb

Attention please. This is a hoax article.

Please check the link provided in post #73.

posted on Monday, May 23, 2011 10:18:03 AMby Interesting Times(WinterSoldier.com. SwiftVets.com. ToSetTheRecordStraight.com.)

To: Quix

I rarely meet folks who have analyzed even as much as 10% of the mass of data I’ve analyzed to come to my conclusions.

Since you deny the validity of logic, it would be far more accurate to say that you have never “analyzed” anything.

posted on Monday, May 23, 2011 10:19:45 AMby Interesting Times(WinterSoldier.com. SwiftVets.com. ToSetTheRecordStraight.com.)

To: Interesting Times; Amityschild; Captain Beyond; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; GiovannaNicoletta; …

THERE SEEMS TO BE . . . at least on FR and in some other arenas . . .

a very TYPICAL wholesale and very DECEPTIVE

bias that is rarely even noticed, much less admitted and much much less dealt with

on the part of

presumed rigorous linear thinkers; hyper-objectivists etc.

on FR.

The seductive, deceptive and sometimes deadly biases are:

1. The GREEK way of apprehending knowledge and analyzing knowledge is either the only way or the absolutely best way in all respects, all contexts, with regard to all types of knowledge and all types of goals, criteria etc.

[THAT'S UTTER NONSENSE.]

2. There’s a huge lopsided bias bending over backwards trying to avoid a TYPE I ERROR. In all my time on FR, I can recall only 1-3 other blokes even understanding fully and acknowledging the reality and hazards of that deadly hazard.

THAT’S UTTER NONSENSE. A TYPE II ERROR IS JUST AS POTENTIALLY DEADLY AS A TYPE I ERROR. So why such a lopsided bias–that AUTOMATICALLY RESULTS IN A VIRTUAL CERTAINTY OF EXPERIENCING ALL THE DEADILINESS, FALSEHOOD OF A TYPE II ERROR???? THAT’S

IRRATIONAL!

3. Such blokes virtually always have little to no appreciation for nuance, phenomenology, inference, etc. They are the sorts of people as they enter into a business agreement, contract with a new partner–their wife–after meeting the partner for 30 min. tells them to stay away from the partner and have nothing to do with him.

They ask the wife why. The wife can’t put it into words. She just knows he’s not going to be trustworthy–is going to be very destructive bad news and that hubby better run away fast.

Hubby has analyzed the person’s history; their track record; all the data available . . . finds all the linear factors and logic to be in great order and stubbornly goes ahead with the contract and partnership . . . only to get taken to the cleaners and left with a huge costly legal mess 6-18 months later.

Women typically proces very subtle cues in massive amounts unconsciouslly–often while multiplexing. They usually don’t know how to describe why they feel certain ways–they just do. And those who are well practiced and refined in such processing are usually spot on. It’s an idiot hubby who won’t pay due attention to such phenomenological data gathering and analysis.

Even in my dissertation, I combined both approaches extensively.

4. There’s a 4th very hazardous bias. ARROGANCE. The linear logic blokes are consistently arrogant about their linear logic skills. They are convinced that they collect the best data in the best ways and analyize it in the best analyitical process and arrive at the best conclusions.

BARF BAG!

If FR is a good sampling . . . we’re in big trouble.

In the aggrigate with a ROBUST FULL MIX OF FREEPERS, WE LIKELY CAN’T BE BEAT!

WHEN the aggregate is primarily or top heavy or heavy handedly manipulated by the arrogant linear logic blokes so sold on their brilliance–the product is greatly flawed.

Very greatly flawed.

posted on Monday, May 23, 2011 10:46:24 AMby Quix(Times are a changin’ INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)

Thread was pulled at about that point.
When I posted my reply to INTERESTING TIMES, the thread pulled notice appeared.

My assertion to him was that Given his enormously inaccurate, wholesale wrong, flawed response to what I’d written, it was surprising if he could accurately collect data and usefully analyze it fruitfully much at all about much of anything.

CERTAINLY THERE’S A LOT OF CHAFF. And there’s going to be a lot of errors with my style and focus–as there are with the other style and focus.

In this complex, convoluted chaotic, rapidly changing era, I’d rather be extra alert and cautious, wary, . . .

Than extra gullible toward the genocidal demonized maniacs running things.